What is the basis of standards? Could it be that fear is the greatest barrier we could ever encounter? Is fear the primary basis of most standards that people try to enforce throughout the day?
I saw your latest comment on shovel shack (Dec-17-11.) It ended: "In Christ, there is nothing to fear, not even fear itself."
Yet, the way you formulate this implies that there is still something to fear, namely, "nothing."
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that "In Christ, not even nothing is to be feared!) And, in these simple words lies one of the simplest and greatest truth of our Lord; that is to say that Nothingness is the key to the Kingdom.
As I sometime say, not so sarcastically as it seems: "And the One reflected his Many into Nothingness and thought to Himself: “I have to lay this down.”
And the Many, through the One became another Many for the One.
Actually, the way the whole post was formulated, I specifically went into how someone else made "nothing" into something to be feared. Nothing=no thing, so if it was stated as you suggest, that I imply nothing as something to be feared, the literal interpretation would still be that there is no thing (real or imagined) to be feared. Even then, I made it clear that any such fear itself should not be feared. Tying all the thoughts together is not the supposition that we cannot or should not fear, but that being afraid has no impact on our relationship with Christ, our fellowship with God. None of those things we fear as being able to separate us from his love is actually capable of doing so.
I would tell you that I am nothing to fear, but I feel you might take that the wrong way. While there may be nothing to fear in discussing things, there is also nothing to be gained in continuing to discuss these things further. All of which, I am afraid, will only serve to encourage you to continue.
I find it curious that you aren't discussing this on the forum where I actually posted the discussion. It has agenda written all over it. Which means my patience for anyone attempting to hold my hand and walk me down primrose paths is nothing.
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Hello my friend Bill!
I think fear has produced a whole slew of standards throughout the course of history. :)
Jim
Bill... I saw the news today, immediately thought of you and your family... please check in for us...
Hi Bill!
I saw your latest comment on shovel shack (Dec-17-11.) It ended:
"In Christ, there is nothing to fear, not even fear itself."
Yet, the way you formulate this implies that there is still something to fear, namely, "nothing."
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that "In Christ, not even nothing is to be feared!)
And, in these simple words lies one of the simplest and greatest truth of our Lord; that is to say that Nothingness is the key to the Kingdom.
As I sometime say, not so sarcastically as it seems:
"And the One reflected his Many into Nothingness and thought to Himself:
“I have to lay this down.”
And the Many, through the One became another Many for the One.
Cheers,
Theo Dosiusone
Actually, the way the whole post was formulated, I specifically went into how someone else made "nothing" into something to be feared. Nothing=no thing, so if it was stated as you suggest, that I imply nothing as something to be feared, the literal interpretation would still be that there is no thing (real or imagined) to be feared. Even then, I made it clear that any such fear itself should not be feared. Tying all the thoughts together is not the supposition that we cannot or should not fear, but that being afraid has no impact on our relationship with Christ, our fellowship with God. None of those things we fear as being able to separate us from his love is actually capable of doing so.
Now, let us go back to your original question, Bill; namely, "what can separate us from the Love of God?"
"Nothing," right?
So it seems that only the barrier of Nothingness can separate us from the love of God and God Himself; and that is what is to be feared.
Now the question is:
"How can I separate myself from the love of God?"
Theo
Theo,
I would tell you that I am nothing to fear, but I feel you might take that the wrong way. While there may be nothing to fear in discussing things, there is also nothing to be gained in continuing to discuss these things further. All of which, I am afraid, will only serve to encourage you to continue.
I find it curious that you aren't discussing this on the forum where I actually posted the discussion. It has agenda written all over it. Which means my patience for anyone attempting to hold my hand and walk me down primrose paths is nothing.
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